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Re: Ford F-150 . . . Ford F-250 (Read 1013 times)
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06/03/10 at 1:57pm
 
These trucks any good in terms of reliability and power to haul stuff (i.e. firewood, ATVs, 10-foot trailer with sleds, etc.) Anything I should steer clear of or look for in these vehicles?  
 
Toying around with the idea of getting a pick-up and replacing the Toyota 4Runner.
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Reply #1 - 06/03/10 at 2:48pm
 
2 different leagues Jake.  First decide what you want to spend and realize you'll get a newer, lower mileage F150 than you will in an F250.  Sounds like you don't need a 3/4 ton.  If you're pulling small trailers and doing some firewood, an F150 will suffice.  Better fuel mileage and cheaper maintenance to boot.  
If you're pulling big campers, hauling dump trailers or plowing for a business, a 3/4 ton is the way to go.  I couldn't decide so I have an 07 Tundra and an 03 Dodge 2500, but the Tundra is heading down the road  Grin
 
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Reply #2 - 06/03/10 at 6:16pm
 
I have a  brand new 2010 F-150 sitting outside. Not sure if your looking for new or not.
This truck has a 7700# GVWR package. It has the Max trailer tow package and 3.73 gears.
it can tow a trailer up to 11,200#. This replaced my '07 F-150 which also had a 3.73 gear package.
As you look, either new or used, be very mindful of the gear ratios. That will make quite a difference in towing performance.
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Reply #3 - 06/03/10 at 7:51pm
 
I would say a 150 is all you need....
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Reply #4 - 06/03/10 at 10:40pm
 
I have an '05 F-150 with just over 50k miles on it and have yet to have any issues.  Just did the brakes and rotors, they were toast.  New tires last year.  Besides oil changes, windshield wipers, air filters it hasn't cost me any more than the truck payment.  I occasionally tow a 6,600 lb camper and with it had the 3.73 gear ratio, mine has 3.52 or something close to that.  My fuel milage on average is around 16-17 MPG.  Very good riding truck as far as comfort goes.
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Reply #5 - 06/05/10 at 5:10am
 
I'm going to be the jerk that says, by a sierra or silverado kiss. They hold their value a little better, and are extremely reliable.  Cool
 
Gear ratios do matter. If you want great power for towing and all around grunt, get the 3.73 / 4.10 or if you want the gas mileage get a 3.42.
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Reply #6 - 06/05/10 at 10:01am
 
I have a 2008 Ford F-250 6.4L definately is my favorite truck to date, does everything I need and more, certainly is a lot of coin but once you go Diesel you never go back. Wink No regrets! Smiley
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Reply #7 - 06/07/10 at 8:28am
 
Quote from LitFuse on 06/05/10 at 5:10am:
I'm going to be the jerk that says, by a sierra or silverado kiss. They hold their value a little better, and are extremely reliable.  Cool

Gear ratios do matter. If you want great power for towing and all around grunt, get the 3.73 / 4.10 or if you want the gas mileage get a 3.42.

 
I would have considered a GM product except for two things: a) they took a government hand-out which kind of ticked me off and b) they cut my wife's credit limit from $10,000 on her GMAC credit card to $300 . . . simply because she had not used the card for a few months.
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Reply #8 - 06/07/10 at 10:22am
 
You might wanna' look at a Tundra, 5.7L(mine was built in San Antonio,TX with more US produced parts than any of the US brands). 401 lb/ft of torque at a surprising low 3600RPM, 4:30 gear ratio to get those loads moving and a 6speed(I know, everyone has one, NOW) to produce good fuel efficiency. I bought mine in July, '07 and am still amazed at the power in this half ton truck
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Reply #9 - 06/07/10 at 10:25am
 
I went on the Chevy website, I'm shocked at how many options you choose are "dealer installed", not to mention the lack of choices in options as compared with Ford.
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Reply #10 - 06/07/10 at 10:29am
 
Quote from TT600 on 06/07/10 at 10:22am:
You might wanna' look at a Tundra, 5.7L(mine was built in San Antonio,TX with more US produced parts than any of the US brands). 401 lb/ft of torque at a surprising low 3600RPM, 4:30 gear ratio to get those loads moving and a 6speed(I know, everyone has one, NOW) to produce good fuel efficiency. I bought mine in July, '07 and am still amazed at the power in this half ton truck

 
They don't have a choice but to put in 4.30 gears, it wouldn't pull anything with a 3.73 gear setup.
One of my trips up north this year was with a guy in a Yota, we both had 2 place open trailers, my '07 F-150 killed his '07 Yota on fuel mileage.
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Reply #11 - 06/07/10 at 10:36am
 
Your talking to wrong guy;I traded my '05 150 StupidCrew 5.4 "three valve" with 3:73 gears on the Toyota because I couldn't get from Lyman to Houlton on a tank(30gal)of fuel:we had to stop in IslandFalls. I routinely make Houlton now and pump 20 to 21 gal in the tank, am good to go to St.Agatha and back to Houlton. Don't talk fuel mileage to me
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Reply #12 - 06/07/10 at 10:57am
 
Quote from TT600 on 06/07/10 at 10:36am:
Your talking to wrong guy;I traded my '05 150 StupidCrew 5.4 "three valve" with 3:73 gears on the Toyota because I couldn't get from Lyman to Houlton on a tank(30gal)of fuel:we had to stop in IslandFalls. I routinely make Houlton now and pump 20 to 21 gal in the tank, am good to go to St.Agatha and back to Houlton. Don't talk fuel mileage to me

 
I have to assume it was his driving habits, just my only head to head comparison.
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Reply #13 - 06/08/10 at 8:38am
 
Quote from TT600 on 06/07/10 at 10:22am:
You might wanna' look at a Tundra, 5.7L(mine was built in San Antonio,TX with more US produced parts than any of the US brands). 401 lb/ft of torque at a surprising low 3600RPM, 4:30 gear ratio to get those loads moving and a 6speed(I know, everyone has one, NOW) to produce good fuel efficiency. I bought mine in July, '07 and am still amazed at the power in this half ton truck

 
I've always liked Toyotas . . . but part of the reason I'm looking at Ford pick-ups is that I'm pretty disgusted with Toyota right now . . . my 2000 Toyota 4Runner only has 113,715 miles on it and the rear axle/differential has a major leak . . . now that wouldn't upset me too much since I realize that I do have a 10-year old vehicle and Maine roads are pretty salty.
 
What ticks me off though is a) what should be a $200-$300 part in most every other vehicle is $1,000-$1,200 and b) this is a known issue since a friend who has a contact at a local dealership up here called up and the parts guy said they see this all the time . . . as did my mechanic who said he pretty much sees it with Toyotas since the "metal is thinner."
 
As I said . . . I've always liked Toyotas and never minded paying a little extra vs. paying a little less for a domestic vehicle . . . figured I was buying reliability and quality . . . my thinking is changing on this though based on this recent break down. I realize all vehicles break down, but it kind of galls me that this is a known issue and apparently no solution other than buying a $1,000 part is the fix.
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Reply #14 - 06/08/10 at 8:49am
 
I'm a bit more comfortable with the cast iron engine block that Ford uses vs. the aluminum block that Toyota uses.
Alot of nice things come out of Japan, but when the cars and trucks need repairs they always cost a ton more than the Ford/Chevys.
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Reply #15 - 06/08/10 at 10:14am
 
I hear ya on the repair parts cost; they (Toyota) do think highly of their pieces. I hope not to have this particular vehicle 10 years down the road, but, who knows. There must be some third members(I'm assuming that is your reference)in the recycling end of the parts business. I don't think I'd throw a $1,000 bill at a 10 year old, 100,000+ mile vehicle, no matter the manufacturer  undecided
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Reply #16 - 06/16/10 at 2:01pm
 
not sure if they have fixed the problem or not but the older around 2000ish F150s are prone to blowing spark plugs and thread right out of the heads. know several guys that have had to address this issue.
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Reply #17 - 06/17/10 at 8:54am
 
Quote from TORCH on 06/16/10 at 2:01pm:
not sure if they have fixed the problem or not but the older around 2000ish F150s are prone to blowing spark plugs and thread right out of the heads. know several guys that have had to address this issue.

 
I've been doing some reading and it seems like the problem most of the "newer" Ford F-150s are having now is having the sparkplugs break off while changing them due to a two-piece design . . . apparently there is a technical service bulletin out on how to change them and what to do to prevent them from breaking off . . . there is even a special tool out to remove the broken sparkplugs.
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Reply #18 - 06/17/10 at 10:35am
 
Quote from TORCH on 06/16/10 at 2:01pm:
not sure if they have fixed the problem or not but the older around 2000ish F150s are prone to blowing spark plugs and thread right out of the heads. know several guys that have had to address this issue.

 
I had a VW that did this.   Sold it for parts, the guy that bought it JB welded the plugs in my driveway and drove it 500 miles home.
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Reply #19 - 06/17/10 at 12:11pm
 
Quote from Skidor on 06/17/10 at 10:35am:
Quote from TORCH on 06/16/10 at 2:01pm:
not sure if they have fixed the problem or not but the older around 2000ish F150s are prone to blowing spark plugs and thread right out of the heads. know several guys that have had to address this issue.


I had a VW that did this.   Sold it for parts, the guy that bought it JB welded the plugs in my driveway and drove it 500 miles home.  

 
 
I know they had that problem on the 99 and 00 F-250 V-10's, didn't know it was an issue in the F-150's though.
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Reply #20 - 06/17/10 at 12:45pm
 
Quote from RacingZR on 06/17/10 at 12:11pm:
Quote from Skidor on 06/17/10 at 10:35am:
Quote from TORCH on 06/16/10 at 2:01pm:
not sure if they have fixed the problem or not but the older around 2000ish F150s are prone to blowing spark plugs and thread right out of the heads. know several guys that have had to address this issue.


I had a VW that did this.   Sold it for parts, the guy that bought it JB welded the plugs in my driveway and drove it 500 miles home.  



I know they had that problem on the 99 and 00 F-250 V-10's, didn't know it was an issue in the F-150's though.

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Reply #21 - 06/20/10 at 10:32pm
 
Quote from TORCH on 06/16/10 at 2:01pm:
not sure if they have fixed the problem or not but the older around 2000ish F150s are prone to blowing spark plugs and thread right out of the heads. know several guys that have had to address this issue.

 
    Not sure of the year, but a supervisor at work had this happen to his F-150.
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Reply #22 - 06/21/10 at 6:53pm
 
I have had issues with all makes. Lost an engine in my Ford Bronco at 130,000 miles, My GM lost a head gasket at 110,000 then the intake manifold at 116,000...that needed a new crate motor, now my current GMC is running fine but I know the head gasket will go soon, 110,000 so far. What bugs me more about GM is the illumination. My first I lost the radio/heat controls. SO at night to set the A/C or heat or even change a station we had to turn on the dome light. My current GMC is a 03' and it too is loosing illumination. Tach and Gear selector as well as the controls on the steering wheel. Only way to fix the dash is replace it....$$$$$.   Small things but so are mosquitoes. Currently saving for a new Dodge 2500 Cummins. I was looking at Ford again, but first year release of a new engine.....I'll stick with the Cummins 6.4. It has the bugs worked out now since it came out in 2007.
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Reply #23 - 06/21/10 at 8:41pm
 
Anyone develop an exaust manifold leak in their F-150 at approx. 50,000 miles?
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Reply #24 - 06/22/10 at 9:45am
 
Didn't get beyond 17,000 and traded it  Wink
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